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Historic Extra History: Simón Bolívar

Discussion in 'History & Military Discussion' started by cB557, May 10, 2015.

  1. Threadmark: South Sea Bubble I, II, II, IV, V
    cB557

    cB557 NORTH

    So, a while back, Extra Credits got commissioned to do some episodes on Roman History as a way to promote one of the Total War games. They did the series, it was pretty good, and they enjoyed making it and decided to keep doing history stuff, and Extra History was born.
    They got some historians to help with the whole history thing who I'm pretty sure they name in the videos but I'm too lazy to sift through those to find their names, James Portnoy does the script writing, Daniel Floyd does the narrating, and depending on when the episode came out the art can be by Allison Theus, LeeLee Scaldaferri, Scott DeWitt, or Dan Jones.
    Extra Credits can be found here, and the playlist for Extra History is here.
    There's a separate thread for everything else from Extra Credits, including Extra Play, which would be here.

    So, Extra Credits just finished up their series on the South Sea Bubble, and after a quick search it seems we have no thread on it. Seeing as it's pretty great, I figured I would set up a thread for it.





     
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  2. Threadmark: South Sea Bubble: Lies
    cB557

    cB557 NORTH

    Aaaand there's one more video, just apparently can't have more than five pieces of media in one post so I had to put it here instead of in the OP.
     
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  3. Threadmark: Zulu Empire I: Shaka Zulu Becomes King
    Teen Spirit

    Teen Spirit I don't actually know what to put here.

    Extra Credit has finished up it's amazing tale of the South Sea Company and has moved to a new topic. The rise and fall of the Zulu Empire. Hence the title. While this is probably not going to be filled with as much borderline insane greed and "it was Walpole" moments as the South Sea Company, it still looks like it's gonna be an interesting series. Also nice to see the Paetron voters picking more obscure subjects.

    Intestinal Beetle Heaven.

     
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  4. Threadmark: Zulu Empire II: The Wrath of Shaka Zulu
    Mandemon

    Mandemon Gentlemen, I love brawl.

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    And so, we arrive at the next chapter, where we learn that you don't actually need European influence to be an utter asshole. You just need to be... a human. (I am saying this because in previosu video, they said Europeans had destabilizing effect on the area and now only mention of Europeans is "Made deal with Europeans and then murdered them when it time to pay up")

     
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    Since no one else has stepped up yet. Here's the third episode. A basic rundown between Mpande making nice with the Boers and the British going to war with the Zulu Empire. Man is Ferere a dolt.
     
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  6. Threadmark: Zulu Empire IV: Last Stands and Changing Fortunes; also, Zulu Empire: Lies
    Mandemon

    Mandemon Gentlemen, I love brawl.

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    And the latest episode!



    And... sorry if I feel not impressed with the fact that Zulus won with 20 000 men against 1 800 men who didn't even have a military commander ready and whose commanders had not done basic stuff they normally did.

    So yeah... "Crushed british forces"... sounds more like "beat unprepared half of the army"

     
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  7. Threadmark: Justinian & Theodora I: From Swineherd to Emperor
    blast flame

    blast flame How far will we go if it means lighting the way?



    Pretty interesting.

    I'm curious if the Deems are sort of like political parties what views did the different ones represent? Or is it not that simple?
     
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  8. bookwyrm

    bookwyrm Doom of Public Libraries

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    From the video I didn't really get the feeling that they were political parties I got the feeling that they were more like political machines.
     
  9. >.> I am scared to watch this link. I am rather familiar with Justinian.
     
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  10. They represented which team they wanted to win.

    They weren't 'parties' so much as... gangs. The blues and the greens didn't stand for political issues except in so far as the major patrons of the teams used them to further their political agenda (as Justinian did).
     
  11. Ironanvil1

    Ironanvil1 Riding a metaphorical pony Magistrate

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    "Factions" is probably about the best term for them. They were a combination of fanatical sports team fans, political parties, and organised crime.

    For a modern analogue you might have heard of, you've got the Jamaican Posses, which tend to be associated with Jamaican political parties.
     
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  12. They were also very linked to the patronage system still very prominent in roman society in a way I'm not sure any modern entity really emulates.
     
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  13. Teen Spirit

    Teen Spirit I don't actually know what to put here.

    Ohh this should be interesting. The Eastern Roman empire is always a fascinating subject and Emperor Justinian is probably one of the most interesting emperors. Well interesting in a way that's not also horrifying (Like Justinian II, horrible emperor but goddamn do you have to admire his determination). So this should be most enjoyable, and probably more than a little confusing.

    Shame it's far too early for Walpole, though someone like Walpole probably wouldn't have gotten far during the height of Justianian's reign.
     
  14. Pfffft. Zeno the isaurian for the win
     
  15. BTW, those blues and greens.

    They will show back up in this series.

    Because those riots?


    One of them almost overthrew them.
     
  16. Ironanvil1

    Ironanvil1 Riding a metaphorical pony Magistrate

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    FIFA?
     
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  17. I dont think FIFA has anything on the Demes.

    BTW, there was 4 demes. Red, Blue, Green, and White.

    However, Red and White were unimportant politically.

    They were also funded directly by the empire.
     
  18. Hykal94

    Hykal94 The Kitteh Knight of Islam

    Belissarius is around at this time, right? I know it's a wee bit early, but how good of a general was he?
     
  19. Ironanvil1

    Ironanvil1 Riding a metaphorical pony Magistrate

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    The above mentioned Nika riots were the incident that made his name essentially.
    Belisarius was pretty much the epitome of what a Byzantine General was meant to be, with guile and deception prized on the battlefield over lust for glory, preserving and leveraging smaller, professional forces against larger enemies, and, importantly, loyal, even when his Emperor was being a dick.
    He wasn't flawless, but he achieved a massive amount with restricted resources.
     
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  20. Teen Spirit

    Teen Spirit I don't actually know what to put here.

    The Eastern Romans took their chariot races goddamn seriously.
     
  21. Ah, hooligans. Their history stretches back to the dawn of written history itself.
     
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  22. Fell

    Fell A Work of Meepmorp

    I wonder if you could get the playstation and xbox factions to overthrow the US government.
     
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  23. Ironanvil1

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    They'd just want to trade it in to Gamestop afterwards.
     
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  24. horngeek

    horngeek Australian Dragon Moderator

    "Centuries from now, hooligans will be extinct."

    -A Short-Sighted Byzantine Emperor from CKII

    :p

    (Actually, this is well before CKII timeframe)
     
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  25. Teen Spirit

    Teen Spirit I don't actually know what to put here.

    Yeah I was like "Wait, why is the Varagrian Guard not protecting the Emperor" then I realized this was way before Vikings.
     
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