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Well yes, but if Naruto does have Sealing as a bloodline, he might discover that on his own.
I am not sure I agree with Naruto having a sealing bloodline anyway.

What Kushina had were chakra chains that could tie down Kurama so they were perfect to have as jinchuuriki. And that one actually does seem like a bloodline since another Uzumaki (Karin) also possesses it, though Naruto never displays that trait himself.
 

HoratioVonBecker

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Hence why I don't lend the theory much credence. I still don't know what was going on in that scene, but "he has a Sealing bloodline and shouldn't be told about it" does not resolve the questions satisfactorily.
 

HoratioVonBecker

I try not to argue without curiosity.
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I am quoting this section wholesale, since it works fine as a oneshot and it's utterly brilliant. I'm craving heartache this week!
Sasuke was the best in the clan at kunai throwing. For his age, anyway. They’d let him use real kunai any day now, and then he could prove he was a real ninja, and get accepted into the Academy, and join ANBU and get the Wolf mask and go on missions with Itachi!

He couldn’t wait to tell Itachi that he’d hit all the targets today, even the hanging one that swayed with the wind. But that wasn’t what had him running home like lightning. Tonight, tonight was the night of the Blood Moon, that incredibly rare astro-nomical event that was like a full lunar eclipse but really cool! He could already see it in the sky, enormous, so much bigger than he’d expected, glowing a red that was both exciting and a little scary.

But even the Blood Moon wasn’t the best part. The best part was that Blood Moons were very rare, and it was Sasuke’s birthday (or close enough, anyway), and weeks ago Itachi had promised that, no matter what he had to do that night, he'd finish it all in time to spend the evening alone with him! They’d sit and talk together, and Mum had promised to make his favourite dumplings, and he could show off his new kunai skills (he could hit things even in the dark now, as long as they weren’t too far away!), and he had special permission to stay up past his bedtime, and he’d tell Itachi he’d solved all the riddles, and since the moon was so bright maybe they could go and play in one of the ninja training grounds (Itachi was allowed anywhere) and… and something wasn’t right.

Sasuke slowed down as he passed the gates to the district. Why was it so quiet? Shouldn’t everybody in the clan be out in the streets looking at the amazing red moon?

Maybe they were too boring. Grown-ups did that kind of thing—they were allowed to stay up as late as they liked, and instead they went to bed early because they had work in the morning. Sasuke wasn’t sure he wanted grow up (at least past the age when he could go on missions with Itachi) if that was what it did to you.

The other kids should have been watching, though. That was weird. None of his friends were boring enough to miss the Blood Moon. Well, maybe Shūji, but his little sister would drag him out anyway.

And if everyone was asleep for some weird reason, it was even more too quiet. Where were the earthshaking snores of Uncle Jin, which you could normally hear right across the district? Where were the reassuring, deliberately loud footsteps of the night watch? Where was the yowling of those stupid cats?

Ow!

Sasuke, still looking up at the moon, tripped over something in the middle of the street and found himself on his hands and knees. He managed not to scrape anything, though, because he was almost a real ninja. But who would drop something big in the middle of the street and not pick it up?

Sasuke turned around to look. It took him a second to understand what he was seeing. The shape on the ground was a person, fallen over and not moving. And completely silent, not even making the noises a grown-up did when they were passed out drunk.

Sasuke crawled over to the person in case they turned out to be hurt and he needed to call for help.

“Uncle Jin?” he recognised the man. “Uncle Jin, are you all right?”

In the bright light of the Blood Moon, Sasuke could see liquid around Uncle Jin’s neck, pooling on the ground. It smelled of copper… like blood.

There was another shape under Uncle Jin—Auntie Kanako, his wife. She wasn’t moving either.

Sasuke knew about death. He was the brother of a ninja, after all. But people were only supposed to die on ninja missions, somewhere far away. Or if they were really old, like Granny Oribe when her heart stopped working. Nobody died just because.

There were more shapes in the street up ahead. He ran over to them, hoping, praying.

Auntie Marina, Minako’s mum, still holding the rolling pin people said she could use like a jōnin. Minako herself, the Academy student who babysat Sasuke on Tuesday evenings, and on whom he secretly had a crush.

He couldn’t keep looking. There were more shapes, more people, lying everywhere. Sasuke knew what blood meant. It meant somebody came and killed them all. Was it an army from another village? Was there going to be a war? Were they going to kill Sasuke too?

Sasuke ran home. Everything would be all right when he got home. Mum and Dad would be there. Itachi would be there, and nobody could ever kill Itachi.

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It couldn’t be real. It couldn’t be real. Ninja could make people see things that weren’t there, right? So there had to be an evil ninja around, using his powers to confuse Sasuke. He repeated that to himself, over and over, trying to make it true.

But deep down, he already knew it wasn’t. That was Mum, and that was Dad, shapes on the floor like everyone else. Death meant they weren’t going to wake up again.

He looked through the open doors into the inner garden. Itachi stood outside, in his ANBU armour, looking up at the Blood Moon as blood dripped off the ninjatō in his right hand. Sasuke felt a rush of hope for the first time.

“Itachi! You’re all right! Did you get them? Did you get the people who did all this?”

But there were tears streaking down Itachi’s face, and for some reason Sasuke knew he wasn’t just sad about Mum and Dad.

“No…” Sasuke whispered. “No…”

It wasn’t possible. It didn’t make sense. This was Itachi. Itachi who didn’t do things wrong. He couldn’t, he wouldn’t have done this.

Why?”

“Because I wasn’t strong enough,” Itachi said to the Blood Moon.

“I don’t understand.”

Itachi turned to look at Sasuke. “I don’t know if I do either,” he said after a pause.

“Why, Itachi?” Sasuke pleaded. “Why did you have to kill Mum and Dad? Why did you have to kill everyone?”

Itachi took a long, slow breath. His next words sounded like he was forcing himself to say them.

“If you wish to know the truth, be strong. Be stronger than I was. You are the Uchiha Clan now.”

“Itachi, please…”

Itachi’s mouth made something that had too much pain in it to be a smile. “Forgive me, Sasuke. Another time.”

He sheathed the ninjatō while it was still wet, which even Sasuke knew was bad for it.

“When you are ready, when you can find me and defeat me, then I will give you the answers you need.”

He went down on one knee until his eyes were level with Sasuke’s. They were not the Sharingan Sasuke knew, but some sort of scary wavy triangle.

“Goodbye, little brother. This is the only gift I can give you.”


Sasuke woke up in hospital after a year of coma, a year during which there were no thoughts, nothing but sleep, and a distant sense of the broken pieces of his heart drifting together until it could beat again. He didn’t understand when the doctors told him it had only been a week.

-o-​
“No good,” Sasuke said. “This time I didn’t catch it even when I saw his Sharingan.”

“Let’s take a break,” Kakashi-sensei said. “Putting too much strain on your—”

“Again.”

Sasuke blinked through the tears until he could see Kakashi-sensei’s Sharingan eye clearly. “Do it again. How am I supposed to defeat him if I can’t even beat his memory?
 
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What's the difference? I don't actually know all that much about your workflow.
Sorry for not getting to this. My workflow is too erratic to analyse in any useful amount of detail. On the basic level, it goes "build up short-term ideas, often while going on long walks" (I already know the broad outline of the plot) -> find an opportunity when I have the focus/energy to write -> write and redraft obsessively but unprofessionally -> inflict on beta readers -> post. It doesn't lend itself to obvious optimisation.

It sounds like you're both hilarious and adorable together.
(Are you planning to get married?)
Thank you. We're not planning to get married, however. From the outside view, it seems strange to us to express love and commitment as a binding legal contract, and the historical roots of marriage as property exchange between men are disturbing to anyone who believes in equal rights. I don't mean that as something to argue over, though, since I recognise that the majority of people will have different value systems to ours.
 

HoratioVonBecker

I try not to argue without curiosity.
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Sorry for not getting to this. My workflow is too erratic to analyse in any useful amount of detail. On the basic level, it goes "build up short-term ideas, often while going on long walks" (I already know the broad outline of the plot) -> find an opportunity when I have the focus/energy to write -> write and redraft obsessively but unprofessionally -> inflict on beta readers -> post. It doesn't lend itself to obvious optimisation.
Indeed, but I'm also not seeing why redrafting after publication is considerably more difficult - maybe the "I published it, so I don't want people who read and liked the old draft to lose their thing forever"?
(If that is the problem, I could probably make you a draft archive pretty easily.)
I don't mean that as something to argue over, though, since I recognise that the majority of people will have different value systems to ours.
I certainly don't want to cause hard feelings, but I do want to argue this honestly - unhealthy peace isn't better than unhealthy argument, and I think this is important.
From the outside view, it seems strange to us to express love and commitment as a binding legal contract
From my point of view? It's not just an expression of commitment, it's an expensive signal. (Not generally because it's expensive to give, but rather because it attaches social and legal fallout to breaking said commitment. But this does also push lavish royal weddings into perspective.)
and the historical roots of marriage as property exchange between men are disturbing to anyone who believes in equal rights.
Sure, if that's your core example. From my perspective, it's A: a way to give women considerably more security in "I bore you a child, you should help raise them", and B: a way to give couples the kind of institutional support most people need to stay together. People-as-property is almost literally inconceivable in cultures without money, but marriage-like institutions exist in every culture in the world - including matriarchal cultures, like traditional India.
It's worth discussing with her, at any rate.
 
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Ok the term sealing bloodline confuses me.

Sealing is a skill, a specific discipline of chakra shaping that deals primarily in various tricks with pocket dimensions, and some side stuff.

When you say sealing bloodline in relation to Naruto the character, what is meant?

That being an Uzumaki he should have inherited some natural quirks that make him more likely to have an easy time learning fuinjutsu?

That his chakra is somehow different from most shinobi in a way that makes sealing more effective when used by or on him?

That his chakra naturally has traits or composition similar to that of a dimensional pocket, is pre-shifted to exist partly in another dimension, or that the chakra chains of the uzumaki clan are both a bloodline trait and inherently a sealing technique?
 
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I certainly don't want to cause hard feelings, but I do want to argue this honestly - unhealthy peace isn't better than unhealthy argument, and I think this is important.

From my point of view? It's not just an expression of commitment, it's an expensive signal. (Not generally because it's expensive to give, but rather because it attaches social and legal fallout to breaking said commitment. But this does also push lavish royal weddings into perspective.)

Sure, if that's your core example. From my perspective, it's A: a way to give women considerably more security in "I bore you a child, you should help raise them", and B: a way to give couples the kind of institutional support most people need to stay together. People-as-property is almost literally inconceivable in cultures without money, but marriage-like institutions exist in every culture in the world - including matriarchal cultures, like traditional India.
It's worth discussing with her, at any rate.
(((EDIT: Removed unrelated portion of the quote.)))

Let me restate your argument to make sure that I got it. Please correct me if I have it wrong:
  • I (HVB) believe that marriage is a good thing and I am implying that you (Velorien) should do it because:
    1. It will make it expensive to end your relationship
    2. It will ensure that you (V) support the children that you have never said you have or intend to have
    3. It will provide institutional support to both you ( @Velorien ) and your partner
      1. Most relationships will end unless they have this institutional support
    4. You (V) assert that you find it disturbing that marriage is rooted in property rights but this is not a valid objection because that is no longer the case

Do I have all that right? If so, I would ask the following:

Re point #1: Do you have knowledge of how long Velorien and his partner have been together or how likely they are to end the relationship? If not, this seems like not a relevant point.

Re point #3: What do you mean by 'institutional support'?
 
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HoratioVonBecker

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Do I have all that right?
I'm afraid there are some major mistakes, actually.
  • I (HVB) believe that marriage is a good thing, because:
    1. It signals loyalty very strongly.
      • (Which women are normally wired to like a lot, because raising children alone is hard.)
    2. It provides institutional support to both parties.
      • Marriages seem to break up less often than other sexual relationships; this support might be a factor.
    3. Although your (@Velorien's) core example of marriage-as-an-institution is "disturbingly close to sex slavery", I believe that non-creepy examples are far more representative.
  • I suggest you (Velorien) confer with your partner in light of this, but I don't intend to condemn either of you if you decide against marrying anyway.
Do you have knowledge of how long Velorien and his partner have been together or how likely they are to end the relationship?
At least a few years, probably coming up on a decade. Even with the very limited data I have, I'd give at least 13-in-20 odds of them staying together indefinitely - but if reasonable, I'd like to improve that.
Re point #3: What do you mean by 'institutional support'?
Marriage comes with a new social role - people think of married couples as a unit, in a way they don't seem to otherwise. (See also: the vocabulary of "husband and wife" versus "boyfriend and girlfriend", marital name changes, how you're more likely to be invited to an in-law's wedding/funeral/family reunion if they're an official in-law.)
Ok the term sealing bloodline confuses me.

Sealing is a skill, a specific discipline of chakra shaping that deals primarily in various tricks with pocket dimensions, and some side stuff.

When you say sealing bloodline in relation to Naruto the character, what is meant?

That being an Uzumaki he should have inherited some natural quirks that make him more likely to have an easy time learning fuinjutsu?

That his chakra is somehow different from most shinobi in a way that makes sealing more effective when used by or on him?

That his chakra naturally has traits or composition similar to that of a dimensional pocket, is pre-shifted to exist partly in another dimension, or that the chakra chains of the uzumaki clan are both a bloodline trait and inherently a sealing technique?
We haven't bothered to specify, because all we know about it, if it exists, is that the chakra paper seemed to turn into a seal.
 
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Subrosian_Smithy

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I certainly don't want to cause hard feelings, but I do want to argue this honestly - unhealthy peace isn't better than unhealthy argument, and I think this is important.
Unhealthy peace? What the hell, dude.

Opening your mouth now isn't a matter of airing grievances rather than letting them fester; it's a matter of being horribly invasive and pushy. You asked Velorian a deeply personal question apropos of nothing, and they only got political insofar as they needed to explain their answer. If you don't like the answer they gave you about their personal life choices, and think there's something else that they should be doing, then you shouldn't have asked as if you were merely curious.

The notion that treating people like property for trade requires a formal currency system is absurd -- it only requires some notion of ownership and of the ability to transfer ownership, which necessarily predates the formal institution of currency in the form of the likes of barter, reciprocal gift-giving, and/or credit exchanges. The notion that marginalized matriarchial cultures inform the nature of marriage in western nations like the UK is absurd, as is the idea that marriage in these nations has nothing to do with control, as evinced by historical attitudes towards extramarital sex and marital rape, to say nothing of the likes of coverture. The notion that Velorian and their partner will reap any benefit from sending a signal they emotionally believe to be transparent as glass, if not outright malign, is absurd. The notion that Velorian's partner needs marriage as a signal of loyalty, despite the fact that they've apparently said otherwise, is vulgar evopsych nonsense, as is the entire line of thought of trying to apply statistical population odds to a single couple with all manner of personal qualities between themselves that necessarily modify the longevity of their relationship and the odds of their lasting commitment.

You talk about long-term commitment and keeping couples together, but 'staying together' isn't even the point of a relationship. If two people are only staying together because they're committed and loyal, and not because they're happy together, then that's a complete fucking travesty of a relationship breakdown, but as you yourself say, marriage can only directly reinforce commitment and signal loyalty.

Most of all, you keep talking about your point of view, but your point of view is fundamentally irrelevant here, because it's their relationship and not yours. It's not your responsibility to help keep Velorian and their partner together in a stable long-term relationship.
 
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The off-topic discussion kept this in the first handful of forum pages long enough for me to notice it.

I'm glad I did, because I binge-read it. I thoroughly enjoyed the story, and I hope you either continue it or (based on some of your comments) write another rationalist Naruto fic from scratch with lessons learned from the feedback.

If I had to critique, there were only two things that really stuck out at me.

The first was a bit of genre whiplash. The fic in general is rationalist and serious with plenty of silliness tossed in. However, there are a couple times the fic delves into manga-style slapstick that don't really fit with everything else.

The second is the number of times Naruto got threatened with death by people who ostensibly know he's the demon host and who ostensibly know what happens to demon hosts that get killed. More specifically, what happens to the demons that were previously inside the host before they died.

You even lampshade that people wouldn't want to kill Naruto if they knew he was a host in one of the discussions, but that doesn't jive with people like the academy instructor that was apparently trying to get Naruto to commit suicide.


In any case, what I've read so far has been very entertaining and I'm sad to see there isn't more. I'll probably be checking into your other work as well.
 
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Thanks for this. I think the first of your points is a matter of taste, but I agree completely on the second. Trouble is, it's an irreconcilable contradiction in canon which I can't undo without the kind of drastic change to the story that would turn it into something else altogether. Naruto has to be the demon host. Naruto has to be loathed by people who genuinely accuse him of having murdered their friends and family.

There are many great fics out there that have experimented with either or both of these premises, but this one isn't intended to, and its general intention to maintain a modified version of canon results in a constant tension between pure rationality and the human stupidity upon which canon is founded (@HoratioVonBecker can offer examples of this issue by the dozen).
 
Naruto suffers very much from the fact that the author very much seems to have decided some facts of the universe midway through the story. Many of the mechanics of them change. Specifically it very much seems that the original intent was that, unless released the Biju died with the host. The author seems to have changed that somewhere around the chunin exam arc without changing the facts of what was done before and without explanation.
 
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I don't know about that specifically, but using the chuunin arc as an example you'd think that each bijuu had unique and special requirements/powers and that creating a demon vessel was dangerous undertaking reserved for emergencies or desperation moves.

Which doesn't really mesh with later discoveries.
 

HoratioVonBecker

I try not to argue without curiosity.
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There are many great fics out there that have experimented with either or both of these premises, but this one isn't intended to, and its general intention to maintain a modified version of canon results in a constant tension between pure rationality and the human stupidity upon which canon is founded (@HoratioVonBecker can offer examples of this issue by the dozen).
Hm. Danzo is the only one I remember being really clever and really dumb at the same time. I remember a fair few people-being-dumb moments, but any tension with the rational themes was kind of undercut by their lack of connection to them - people usually act dumb to make the story progress, without an in-story justification. The main exception actually being the villagers, who presumably don't know that killing demonhosts is a bad idea on the whole.
 
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The Computer is not my friend. More specifically, it has erased literally all of my data, including my LUD and MfD drafts and notes (and more boring stuff like work documents and 4 TB or so of anime). Gentle reader, please expect additional delays, and potential weirdness as I fail to rebuild my plot and worldbuilding notes from memory and end up with something quite different from my original intent.
 
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The Computer is not my friend. More specifically, it has erased literally all of my data, including my LUD and MfD drafts and notes (and more boring stuff like work documents and 4 TB or so of anime). Gentle reader, please expect additional delays, and potential weirdness as I fail to rebuild my plot and worldbuilding notes from memory and end up with something quite different from my original intent.
Oh jeezus, I’m sorry Vel. Any chance some professional service could manage to recover things? :(
 
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Rule of thumb for backups: if it isn't stored on at least 3 devices in at least 2 physically separate locations, then it's a temporary file.
 
Chapter XXIX New
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Chapter XXIX

Water was far more like Fire than Naruto had expected. Granted, sitting in the hot springs might have had something to do with that—Naruto had put his foot down over the Yamagawa River with its agile and very bitey fish, and Jiraiya had presented the hot springs as the only alternative. Naruto was new enough to the area that he couldn’t argue.

Like Fire, the hot spring water felt like it contained the spark of life, if differently shaped. It had the same sense of power freely offered, and the same edge of danger for the unwary. It had the same potential for unappeasable devastation (and for some reason chose to unleash that potential whenever Naruto was within reach). And then, unlike Fire, it had an endlessly mutable nature. Steam had completely different properties to liquid water, as he was very aware right now. So did ice, another way in which Water remained Naruto’s nemesis in spite of either side’s best intentions.

“Jiraiya! What the hell’s an old bastard like you doing in my hot spring?”

The contemptuous voice snapped Naruto right out of his meditation.

“Oh, it’s your hot spring now, is it, Seijin? And here I remember the last time you were kicked out for being drunk and disorderly. What’s the matter, memory going with age, like certain other things I won’t mention in front of the kids?”

The newcomer, Seijin, was a rotund, sallow old man with a bulbous nose down which he was now staring at Jiraiya. There was a boy next to him, probably in his early teens, tanned as if used to spending time outdoors without much on, and with the kind of musculature Naruto would never bother to acquire.

“Let’s have some introductions, why don’t we?” Seijin said. “Kaiden, this sad sack is Warty McToadface, known to the uninitiated as Jiraiya. He’s managed to convince himself he’s still a big bad hero, when in reality he’s a hack who cranks out wish-fulfilment porn where his thinly-veiled self-inserts get it on with hot women who wouldn’t spit on the real him if he was on fire.”

“Naruto, this tub of lard is Seijin, whose only ninja skill is rolling his way to victory—sorry, I mean defeat. Even the Akimichi turned him down. He drinks like a fish, smokes like a chimney, and spends half his time at the gambling table losing the money he’s swindled out of honest folk, and the other half with ladies of easy virtue, since it’s the closest he’ll ever get to having any. Or to getting any, for that matter.”

“He’s just jealous because they turn him away even when he offers twice the going rate,” Seijin confided.

Naruto was aware that there were certain kinds of manga that shops wouldn’t sell to a twelve-year-old, and he made a note to redouble his efforts to get them anyway. He felt like the implications were blocking out the sun as flocks of them soared over his head.

“Anyhow, this kid here’s Kaiden. The old daimyo’s very own grandson, entrusted to yours truly because no one else would do.”

“Bullshit,” Jiraiya said. “No daimyo would be dumb enough to introduce a ninja into the line of succession.”

“Watch your tongue, commoner!” Kaiden snapped.

Seijin snorted. “See, he’s got all the instincts. And in answer to the question you’re too dumb to ask, his grandma’s Silver-Tongued Mina herself.”

“Silver-Tongued Mina, huh?”

Both men fell silent for a second.

“What a woman…” they breathed in unison.

“Turns out one of her seduction missions was a little more successful than she’d intended,” Seijin went on. “Or at least the timing screams it—she’s not dumb enough to confirm or deny. Her son was a carpenter with no aspirations above his station, so everyone figured that would be the end of it… until little Kaiden here was born with chakra reserves off the charts. Obviously, the Daimyo can’t ever acknowledge him, but he’s at least paid for his grandson to be trained by the best of the best, A.K.A. me. Shame I’ve got a genius to work with while you picked up a random street urchin to fuss over, huh?”

Jiraiya gave a big laugh. Naruto suppressed one of his own. If the obnoxious old man and his equally obnoxious apprentice had any idea…

“Shame this random street urchin’s about to kick your genius’s ass, huh?”

“What’re you talking about, Warty?”

“Going too fast for you, Flabby?” Jiraiya sneered. “There ain’t room in this hot spring for the both of us. But it would be no competition at all if it was just me beating the snot out of you, so I thought I’d make it a little fairer and have us a proxy duel.

“You can kick Honourable Grandson’s ass for me, can’t you, kid?”

Kaiden gave Naruto a disdainful look.

Seijin smirked at Kaiden. “You prepared to lose to some back alley fleabag, boy?”

“Hell yeah!”/“Hell no!”

“Then here’s the rules,” Jiraiya said. “Over there, past the wall, is No Man’s Land. Cross it, and you’ll be right over the women’s baths. Whichever of you brings back the most data for my next novel wins. Ages, hair colours—and I mean all of them—measurements, everything. But don’t dawdle, because anyone who doesn’t get back by the time Flabby and I are done bathing is disqualified.”

“Guess Old Warty’s getting senile,” Seijin added, “because he’s forgotten one minor detail worth knowing: the reason why it’s called No Man’s Land. See, everybody knows genin try to sneak in to spy on bathing girls in the hot springs. It’s a rite of passage. That means it’s prestigious to have solid anti-peeping defences to protect your guests’ privacy. And then after the incident thirty-seven years ago—“

“May Third,” Jiraiya added helpfully, “in the afternoon.”

“After that incident, for a while the rich chose their resorts based on which ones could best guarantee their privacy. That led to an arms race, then a proxy arms race between the ninja who’d be selling most of the security measures, and things got out of hand, and… I guess you’ll see for yourselves. Just don’t expect it to be a cakewalk.”

“Trust me,” Jiraiya said, “it will be for the kid here. You should see the ninjutsu he’s got up his sleeve.”

“Pfft. My apprentice could run whatever gauntlet they’ve got over there without using any ninjutsu at all.”

“Oh, is that right? Well, my apprentice could do it without using chakra altogether.”

Naruto and Kaiden exchanged anxious looks.

“My apprentice,” Seijin rebutted, “could do it without chakra use or even ninja tools.”

“Ha! Well, my apprentice—“

“Let’s get started!” Naruto yelled with fake enthusiasm before the old men decided they had to run the gauntlet with their legs tied together while singing the Academy’s elemental circle memory song.

“All right, kids, chuck your towels over and get ready on my mark.”

“What,” Naruto demanded. “Why can’t I take my bath towel?”

“Are you kidding?” Jiraiya asked in mock horror. “A towel is about the most massively useful thing a ninja on a mission can have. Who cares if you have access to chakra or ninja tools when you have a quality towel at your disposal?”

Naruto gave Jiraiya a sceptical look, but given that he didn’t actually care about covering up in front of his fellow male bathers, and he really wanted to make Seijin eat his words…

The two boys warily followed their perverted elders’ directions, and climbed up to the edge of the partition delineating the border between safety and dangers unknown.

“On your marks!”

Naruto tensed.

“Get set!”

Both boys shoved each other violently off the edge. Chakra or no, they were ninja.

“Go!” they heard in the distance as they picked themselves up and began to run.

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“Faster, Shino,” Kumiko demanded mercilessly. “Granny Rie has better footwork than you do!”

“Grandmother passed away three years before I was born,” Shino said evenly.

“Exactly! C'mon, baby brother, get your ass in gear. You can’t let your partners do all the heavy lifting. Well, not unless you’re working with Type XIIs.” Kumiko laughed at her own joke. Shino, who had heard it three times during the last eighteen months, did not. It would be years before he was ready to bond with the notoriously mischievous Type XII-αs, never mind the more advanced breeds that could briefly raise a person in the air.

“Aie!” he yelped. A second’s misstep, and Kumiko’s Type I-αs had stung his arm. As Kumiko chortled with laughter, Shino briefly wondered what she called hers. Even when they were both very young, and unclear on the boundaries of social propriety, she had refused to say.

He had been too little to remember her bonding ceremony, of course, though she’d attended his. Like every Aburame child, he’d sat in the middle of the First Hive, lit only by a brilliant moon. Like every Aburame child, he’d been forbidden to open his eyes, told to reach out only with his inner senses and feel his own Type I-αs make his body their new home. Like every Aburame child, he had peeked anyway.

He’d seen his Type I-αs’ iridescent shells glimmer in the nocturnal light, and known without a shadow of a doubt that they were moondrops, fragments of the cool, flowing light illuminating him at that moment. That part was not like every Aburame child—some took years to learn which part of their soul their partners occupied. Like the clear moon, it had been a good omen.

It was, of course, not something spoken of casually. He knew, by now, that his father drew his names from metonymies of plants and animals. Cousin Miki, with whom he had often played before she grew too old for games, used the elements, both common and obscure, and Shino had always wondered what she would do if she ran out.

Just now, Shino was practising misdirection with his morning mist, named for the fragile haze that disappeared quickly, stealing away with it the final secrets of the night. It wasn’t something he would ever share with the world at large—he suspected that to his fellow genin, his manliness already hung by a thread—but he would tell Kumiko, if she asked. He’d trust her if he had a chance, and perhaps that touch of intimacy would go some way towards restoring the friendship they lost when she grew up. But she never asked.

“Earth to Shino! Do you want Kiba to kick your ass even harder than he did yesterday?”

“It was a draw,” Shino muttered rebelliously. “If he says otherwise, that concussion must have been worse than he believed.”

“I still don’t get why you keep using that mutt as a practice partner. Are you just that much of a masochist?”

“Kiba’s abilities are ideal for refining my own. Why? Because—”

“You can drop the shtick,” Kumiko interrupted peevishly. “We’re at home, remember?”

“You’re right,” Shino gave Kumiko a small, awkward smile. “I’m sorry.”

“Your ‘incremental image cultivation strategy’ strikes again, right? Maybe tomorrow you should try tilting your sunglasses a couple of degrees, if that’s not too bold.”

That struck a nerve. Shino promptly followed Kumiko’s so-called advice, but only so she could see his glare over them.

“By all means, beloved sister, please continue to rub salt in my wounds. Given your apparent passion for the substance, it is no wonder you have no sense of taste.”

“That!” Kumiko pointed an excited finger at him. “If you showed your friends half the deadpan you throw at me when you’re pissed off, instead of that catchphrase crap—”

“Then they would perceive me as aggressive and antisocial, and I would revert to being ‘that creepy bug kid’. I think not.”

He turned to leave. “In answer to your earlier question, I spar with Kiba because subtle strategy should overcome reckless direct confrontation every time, and yet I defeat him only six times in ten.”

“Four times,” Kumiko interjected helpfully.

Six times. Until I understand how he can so consistently triumph in the absence, nay, in defiance of all reason and common sense, the shinobi you so superciliously describe as ‘that mutt’ remains a wall I cannot overcome, no matter how frequently and thoroughly I obliterate him.”

He hadn’t intended to say that much. Likely he couldn’t have, to another. He glanced back, part of him hoping that the unintended candour might spark at least some small reciprocation. But of course Kumiko only looked at him thoughtfully, and offered nothing back.

Shino zipped up his high collar as he walked away.

At this time of day, Kiba would probably be grooming his family at the Inuzuka compound, but he and Akamaru always welcomed visitors. And though Shino would never admit it, there were times when it was a salve for his soul to have a human partner and would-be rival who believed subtext was a guide to sandwich-making.

-o-​

No Man’s Land was ridiculously well-defended... from civilians. With Naruto’s Academy training, he could see the sunlight glinting off the steel caltrops as if it were a bonfire. The boys skipped casually over the trap, Kaiden heading for the rise running parallel to the east wall while Naruto went straight through the caltrop field, gaining valuable seconds by trusting in the trapping expertise of Uzumaki Naruto himself.

Then he heard the baying of the hounds.

“Oh, you have got to be kidding me,” he muttered as a pack of dobermans came into view in the distance. You could train attack dogs to restrain without biting, right?

Kaiden’s lead worked against him. With both boys’ scent erased by the bathing, the dogs were forced to rely on sight—and there was only one visible target. Naruto charged ahead down the other path with a triumphant smirk.

The spikes thrusting into his feet wiped it right off his face.

In his moment of distraction, Naruto had missed the point where the shiny caltrops were replaced by nigh-invisible matte ones. With a yelp, he dove into the nearest thicket ahead of him, off the ground and thus caltrop-free, trusting in the branches to support his weight for the few seconds it would take him to plot a new path.

As the branches inflicted countless merciless scratches, he saw something that made him feel even worse. Kaiden reached the high point of the rise, the hounds nipping at his heels. Then, in a display of pure unenhanced athleticism, he ran along the wall, placing himself out of their reach long enough to make the jump off the edge and past the pool of mud immediately below. The dogs, with no such powers, could only wade after him.

But Naruto had his own problems. His yelp had attracted a threat that made Kaiden’s ravenous predators look like puppies.

“I know you’re there,” the kunoichi called out. “I’m authorised to use deadly force against ninja, but if you surrender now, you might get off with a fine!”

Oh, good. A girl was about to see him naked and then apply violence to his more sensitive body parts. Again.

Naruto suppressed the sense of impending doom and studied the Second Coming of Sakura. Ninja wire looped several times around her waist for tying up intruders. Kunai pouch on her right thigh, edges hopefully blunted for incapacitation. Genin stance. Short and kind of cute.

She’d find him in moments. He would only get one chance.

The second she looked away, scanning the area, he leapt out of the bush, both hands out to disarm her.

She spun around, hand pulling out a blocking kunai in one admirably smooth movement.

Naruto moved past her, imitating Sasuke’s movement from their unforgettable first live combat, reaching out as he went to yank on the end of the ninja wire. The kunoichi turned into a spinning top.

After that, it was child’s play to cut off a couple of wire lengths with her alarmingly sharp kunai, bind her wrists and ankles, and keep the rest. No ninja tools? Newsflash, respected elders: ninja cheat.

By the time Naruto arrived at his destination, Kaiden was already concealed on the highest branch of a tree directly overhanging the women’s baths. Credit where it’s due, Naruto couldn’t see a better spot, so close to the targets yet perfectly concealed. Kaiden must have got top marks at the Academy.

Naruto unhurriedly cast a loop of ninja wire around the weakest part of Kaiden’s branch, then a second, then a third, making use of Sasuke’s lesson from the genjutsu (because a smart ninja didn’t need the Sharingan to steal techniques). Then, right at the moment when Kaiden’s concentration was at its peak, he pulled on the end of the wire with all his strength. Gravity generously did the rest.

The women’s reaction proceeded in three stages. First, deafening shrieks as a naked teenage boy plummeted into their midst. Second, panicked flight out of the water, exposing all the details Naruto needed for his report. Third, devastating bombardment with wooden buckets, nailing Kaiden right as the boy finished recovering from his disorientation. He retreated in the only direction he could, back towards No Man’s Land and its hounds.

His mission accomplished, Naruto waited for a few seconds while the dogs recognised their escaped prey, then took a leisurely walk back to Second Coming and slipped a kunai into her bound hands so she could eventually cut herself free.

He leaned over to her ear. “A naked boy just beat you with your own weapons and tied you up, all without using any chakra. I won’t tell if you don’t.”

She swore at him through her gag (it probably couldn’t be called a handkerchief anymore), but she didn’t look so much angry as embarrassed. His continuing lack of clothing might have had something to do with that.

-o-​

“And then she says to me, ‘I’m sorry, I didn’t realise that was just the storage scroll!’”

Jiraiya roared with laughter as Seijin mimed a disbelieving stare.

“Ooh, my turn,” Jiraiya said. “So a couple of months back, I walk into a bar in Tanzaku Gai, and there’s this gorgeous redhead—oh, there you are, Naruto. ‘bout time!”

There was no sign of Kaiden. Naruto may have been the immediate cause of the boy’s woes, but he was a gracious winner, and wished Kaiden the best of luck in making his escape before his victims drew the obvious conclusion and moved to intercept. Unlike him, Kaiden didn’t have a supernatural healing factor.

Meanwhile, a horrible suspicion began to take form in his mind.

“You two aren’t rivals at all, are you? You just wanted to trick us into taking your test!”

“That’s right,” Jiraiya said off-handedly. “There was a point to be made about complacency, and I daresay it’s been made quite well.

“I’ll still be expecting that report, though,” he added.

Must not kill Jiraiya. Not until he finished teaching him ninjutsu. Must not kill Jiraiya. Not until he finished teaching him ninjutsu. Must not kill Jiraiya. Not until he finished teaching him ninjutsu.

“You really thought Leaf’s spymaster wouldn’t recognise Uzumaki Naruto?” Seijin laughed.

“Leaf’s spymaster?” Naruto asked sceptically. If the old man was really that, it was an incredibly convincing disguise.

“He tries that line on everyone,” Jiraiya said. “Works better than you’d expect, especially on drunk girls.”

“Drunk girls? With my skills? Fish in a barrel, Warty, fish in a barrel.”

Seijin leaned in closer to Naruto, his nose even more bulbous up close. “But now… won’t part of you always wonder?”

Naruto gulped.

“All right, you two,” Jiraiya said. “How about we blow this joint and go get some grub? Your apprentice lost, Flabby, so the meal’s on you.”

“Like hell it is. You still owe me for that time your eight-hundred-and-thirty-first girlfriend…”

Naruto led the way, listening to his elders bicker good-naturedly behind him. With a little luck, they’d be too caught up in their reunion to notice that he was leading them towards the most expensive ramen joint he could find.
 
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