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There is QQ if you want to avoid the controversy this place would kick up about you not being 'woke' enough.
In at least one continuity, yes.
they will, however, kick you out if you mention any politics, and have effectively no moderation. The downside of being somewhere with moderation, is well, your posting somewhere with moderation.There is QQ if you want to avoid the controversy this place would kick up about you not being 'woke' enough.
Or, like, confront his faults, overcome them, and grow as a creator and a person.personally, I feel if zoat is not sure if his chapter would pass muster, he should either PM a mod to ask, or just post it and leave if they infract him for it.
It's funny to me that you, one of the most pro trans posters I've seen in this thread, come across as the most closed minded person. Everything that doesn't fit your exact standards is horrible.Or, like, confront his faults, overcome them, and grow as a creator and a person.
That's generally harder but, like, is commonly held as superior in the long run.
"Life is short, and art long, opportunity fleeting, experimentation perilous, and judgement difficult."
he said no posting today or tommorow and probably going to qq if he decides to.So has the new post location been announced yet somewhere? Is he posting today?
Yeah, but he said today like 8 hours ago and it’s 10 AM in England right now so if he posts in the morning it might be the next day for him. (I am in the states posting at midnight so I might be wrong)he said no posting today or tommorow and probably going to qq if he decides to.
That first part warms my heart to such a degree that I suspect you've either mixed me up with someone else, you're flattering me to some end, or you've misread quite a few others quite badly. Regardless, that second part shows I've not made myself understood.It's funny to me that you, one of the most pro trans posters I've seen in this thread, come across as the most closed minded person. Everything that doesn't fit your exact standards is horrible.
you realise no country except maybe canada has had free speech in the last ten years at least. people say free speech but what they mean is whatever I want to say no matter who I offend and then get pissy when I surprise surprise the people I offend get pissed. I got a thread ban for incivility I didn't then complain and bitch that I couldn't lose my temper. I'm an adult I should be able to speak to other adults politely if you have oh lets face it Zoat is one lab accident from being a supervillain and the only thing I am surprised about is that he kept a lid on it for so long the guy intentionally provokes people with his writing and that's fine but going back to an earlier post of mine nobody wants to hear Tolkien's views on people of colour. the mods and well everyone who left already made clear that no being a bigot and espousing bigoted views is not okay.At this point it might just be easier and/or better to make his own forum. If his issue is that none of the current ones are free-speech enough then making his own might be for the best.
Hell, I'd make one for him if he wanted to go that route. I might just make one on principle.
That comes off as incredibly condescending given your previous post.That first part warms my heart to such a degree that I suspect you've either mixed me up with someone else, you're flattering me to some end, or you've misread quite a few others quite badly. Regardless, that second part shows I've not made myself understood.
Seems pretty clear you're condemning the guy for choosing not to be woke as a fault. As far as I can tell, Zoat's completely aware of this identity crisis that first world countries seem to be so obsessed with and just doesn't humor them. There's nothing wrong with that, free speech and free thought and all that rot.Or, like, confront his faults, overcome them, and grow as a creator and a person.
That's generally harder but, like, is commonly held as superior in the long run.
"Life is short, and art long, opportunity fleeting, experimentation perilous, and judgement difficult."
for reference, incredibly mild was mentioning"they show the millennium falcon in the movie" >.>This thing used to be on SpaceBattles. Then he got banned because of an *incredibly mild* star wars spoiler and they banned him for 24 hours, killing his streak. He moved here to preserve it, and has stated the only way he'll go back to SB is if they apologize.
nono, i mean i have perfict recall from when i was a kid- my mother gave me a illustrated book on Norse Mythology, and one of the tales was on Thor going on a "Holiday" fishing with loki, and almost causing the Ragnarok early out of small-minded stubbornness- wait.No, that was the giant Hymir.
Also, Jormungandr battling Thor does happen during Ragnarok. However, it is not what kicks it off
Not all opinions are equal. "Free speech" is the right to say what you want, but:That comes off as incredibly condescending given your previous post.
Seems pretty clear you're condemning the guy for choosing not to be woke as a fault. As far as I can tell, Zoat's completely aware of this identity crisis that first world countries seem to be so obsessed with and just doesn't humor them. There's nothing wrong with that, free speech and free thought and all that rot.
Yes, you clarified regarding Zoat's self imposed collision course with authority and I sort of agree with you there; there wasn't much of a need to railroad the thread into controversy with the post in question. But choosing not to be woke or PC or LGBT or whatever label we've come up with now is a choice that has nothing to do with growth either as a person or a creator. That's you being unimpressed that he's not as 'open-minded' as you are and trying to ride your high horse over his opinions.
The irony of stating that not all opinions are equal then going on to call someone else's opinions evil and wrong.Not all opinions are equal. "Free speech" is the right to say what you want, but:
Zoat's opinions are wrong and disgusting. I will continue to read the story, given that if I gave up consuming any artistic work made by a shitty person I'd have to stop liking Dune, Ender's Game and a wide variety of other great works of fiction, but that doesn't change the fact that Zoat's opinions on the subject are disgusting and evil, as are those of anyone who agrees with him on those subjects.
- We don't have that here.
- Even if we did, free speech doesn't protect you from others calling you out on your bullshit. That's who whole reason why it works at all.
You're one of those people who has no idea what irony is, aren't you? I mean, most people at least get something kinda close, but this isn't even remotely similar to irony. For some opinions (Zoat's on transgender people) to be evil and wrong, by definition all opinions would have to not be equal, unless literally everyone's opinion were equally wrong, which is a perspective dumb enough that I'm not going to bother to argue against it unless someone actually argues in its favor. It's not "ironic" for one statement to be followed by one that logically requires the first to be true in order for it to be true itself.The irony of stating that not all opinions are equal then going on to call someone else's opinions evil and wrong.
Most likely only you would be banned, because trans women are women, and the mods agree with me on that fact. But I would probably get in trouble, it's true, since the rule against hate unfortunately doesn't cancel out the rule against incivility when the incivility is targeted at someone being hateful. With the rules as they are, I suppose there's no point in continuing this conversation.But, whatever man, no way for me to stand my ground in this debate without derailing the thread, getting it locked and us both banned.